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we're lucky, it's not every day you find a companion as loyal as a subaru. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. i'm toure. since we love sports metaphors here, let's say we're at halftime, ready to kick off the president's second term. look at monday as the rousing locker room address. aren't you excited, s.e.? >> i'm thrilled. the thrill is gone after four years. president obama about to change the tone in washington. unfortunately, d.c. is still tone deaf. >> i'm steve kornacki. we are taking you through our favorite inauguration moments today and since the footage of 1864 is a bit grainy, i go with something slightly more contemporary. >> i'm krystal ball, this is another historic event.
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what president's past, present and future can learn from it. t-minus two days until president obama makes history again. on sunday, he'll be sworn in for a second term in the highest office in the land. but did you know obama will become the second president ever to take the oath of office four times? yeah. that's right. steve kornacki told me that. in 2009, he took it twice after chief justice roberts botched it the first time. good job, john. the president will again the lay hand on the bible, january 20th required by the constitution but since it's a sunday, the parades, balls and public swearing in, the fourth oath, pushed until monday the mlk holiday. such poetic justice, that. don't expect the record turnout
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of 2009. a new poll shows fewer americans like president obama right now and his policies versus 2009. only 43% are optimistic about the next four years but his job approval rating still tops 50%. only two presidents after world war ii scored higher approval ratings in the second term and president obama's already on track to join them. let's start with nbc's kristin welker outside the white house as usual. kristin, the preps are going on behind you. walk us through the highlights. >> reporter: a lot of highlights, good afternoon, toure. you are right. this year not as big as 2009 but the city is bustling with preparations. take a look at the inauguration by the numbers. we have some of the key figures for you. back in 2009, 1.8 million people turned out. this year, expecting 600,000 to 800,000 people to turn out. there are two balls in this inauguration compared to the ten
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balls of 2009. don't let that number fool you. they're expecting a huge tu turnout, one of them will be the commander in chief's ball and that's a chance for military families to come and celebrate with the president and first lady. and of course, it will be a star-studded weekend and inauguration day here in washington, d.c., hollywood a-listers are going to turn out. a few names, beyonce, performed in 2009. james taylor big on the campaign trail with president obama, katy perry, smoky robinson, usher, alicia keys, brad paisley. a lot of big names to descend upon d.c. festivities begin tomorrow, toure, and this is one of the interesting things. there's a big day of service, national day of service. so far, people in all 50 states signed up for that day of service. about 200,000 people, of course,
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chelsea clinton heading that effort. there's a concert for kids tomorrow evening and kicks off the festivities, a weekend steeped in tradition, pomp and circumstance and one of the interesting things on inauguration day, president obama will take his oath of office on martin luther king's bible. of course, as you mentioned, also the martin luther king holiday and the president taking the oath of office on the other side of the mall where he delivered the "i have a dream" speech and symbolism certainly in that moment. so d.c. getting prepared. i can tell you just because we're not expecting as many people, the hotels here pulling out the stops. i went to one hotel, the jw marriott, they have the executive suites going for $40,000. >> whoa. >> reporter: so just because we're not expecting 1.8 million people doesn't mean it's not a huge celebration here in the city of d.c.
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toure? >> i hear you're going to all the balls. well played. thank you for that report. >> reporter: thank you. i want to bring in nbc news presidential historian michael beshla. how are you? >> good. thank you. how are you? >> i think we can look at this as the launch and the state of the union sets the tone for what we want to do and the second term to have. what do you think about this inaugural address as this way of sort of launching us and setting the tone? >> it's a huge weapon for president obama. think of it this way. unlikely to ever have an audience like this ever again in his life. people watching that speech. so for a president to get an awful lot done and heard more about that this week in this second term, terrific opportunity. >> yeah. huge second term ahead of him. we will have to talk about guns, talk about iran, talk about immigration, climate change. a lot of people say you really only have 18 months to get it done in the second term. and before the show, you and i were talking about you think
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nixon would have some good advice for obama about how to properly do a second term? surely you can't be serious. >> there are such things as negative role models in life and nixon is not a bad one. something we forget about is nixon by this huge majority, one of the biggest in presidential history. yet, no support, you know, two houses of congress, controlled by the democrats so he overreached. he did something called impoundment. he said, democrats can vote all the programs they want. i'm not going to spend the money. even if it's not for watergate, nixon might have been impeached for this. it shows what presidents do when they feel too weak. president obama we heard a couple of weeks ago said i have read the literature on presidents in second terms who overreach and got the message. >> michael, how have second inaugurations historically differed from first inaugurations? >> well, usually it's sort of a
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somewhat pale echo of the first. you have a first inaugural speech, a big deal, president suggesting the soaring ideas. second one is more limited, more reality. and president obama's case, i think it's the opposite because as grand a day as it was the first time four years ago, that speech was actually rather moderate. he was trying to deflate expectations because he knew there was a danger they'd get out of control. now it's in his interest to raise expectations as much as possible and make the case for all of those things he wants to do. >> you know, the 2012 inauguration we heard a lot from the president about changing the tone in washington, transforming washington, ending business as usual in washington. and by the president's own admission, that hasn't really worked and, in fact, the latest nbc/"wall street journal" poll shows 28% are confident that the president can change d.c. business as usual. do you think in this inaugural address we're going to hear
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anything about that or should we all sort of chalk this up to didn't happen the first time? >> i think he'll certainly try and bill clinton talked about that directly, this system in washington which makes things so difficult but one of the most telling things, we heard a couple of minutes ago, all of this talk of the white house there's a lot of paid to doing things by executive order, executive action. not necessarily by legislative acts in congress, exactly what clinton did in 1997 when he realized that the possibility of getting things from capital hill was a little bit more limited than he hoped. >> michael, let's deal with the elephant in the room here. when at some point in the next few years donald trump succeeds in proving that obama's birth certificate's a fraud, how will that affect the ability to govern the country? no, no. i guess what i'm kind of struck by is we're talking about now few days away from the second inauguration, what are the big
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themes to define the obama term and seems to me maybe more than we have seen in the recent past, this second term really, the basic contours of the second term set in place. it is this fight over what the safety net is, what the balance between spending cuts and revenue increases should be in terms of dealing with the deficit. that's been the battle that's waged since early 2011 and republicans grabbed control of the house. they have the house for two years and feels like more of a ceremonial second inaugural than usual. >> yeah. and i think he's going to have a very tough -- toure was right saying i have a limited idea of how much to get done in this term. lbj in 1965 had had the largest landslide in history, more democrats in congress than any other time in the 20th century except for roosevelt and told the people, we have got six months because i'm going to be asking democrats to make a lot of sacrifices that may hurt them
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back in their home states and willing to do that for six months and then start rebelling. he was absolutely right because if you think of the big things in the great society, voting rights, medicare, the other stuff, most of that was done during johnson's first six months and turned out to be prophetic and a fair warning. >> yeah, no. 1966 midterms, 46-seat landslide for republicans. great example there. >> absolutely. a lot of democratic governors after the election went to johnson and said, please stop sending this stuff to congress making us look too liberal to get re-elected. >> all right. michael, thank you very much. >> thanks. great to see you all, guys. >> all right. next, what if anything can manti te'o learn when and if he finally comes clean from lance armstrong's confession, aka, how to not be a complete and utter loser? lance is next in the spin as we roll on. it's friday, january 18th. i didn't think it was anything.
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i'm sorry. >> don't. love means never having to say you're sorry. >> apparently being lance armstrong means you have to never apologize either. last night in prime time if you could find it armstrong blew past things like, you know, contrition and feeling like mile markers on the road. >> hmm. >> yes or no, did you ever take banned substances to enhance your cycling performance? >> yes. >> did you ever blood dope or
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use blood transfusions to enhance your cycling performance? >> yes. >> did you ever use any other banned substances like testosterone, cortisone or human growth hormone? >> yes. >> yes or no, in all seven of your tour de france victories, did you ever take banned substances or blood dope? >> yes. >> the whole interview unfolded almost exactly as you'd expect, if you'd been following lance armstrong for long enough to know or at least have heard about what he's really like. >> were you a bully? >> yeah. yeah. i was a bully. >> it did not even feel wrong? >> no. scary. >> did you feel bad about it? >> no. even scarier. >> did you feel in any way that
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you were cheating? >> no. the scariest. >> you know what we learned last night? that lance armstrong's dedication and determination is exactly what gave him the ability to scream bold-faced lie after bold-faced lie in to the face of anybody that questioned him. the only thing he hadn't trained and prepared for was getting caught. all right. let's lance. i mean, let's spin. wa wa wa. >> i was able to find own quite easily. >> you are such a suck-up to the o! >> i am not. >> are you waiting far new car? >> i am. >> the car! >> i think that lance further damaged himself last night. he seemed like a jerk. he seemed cold. he continued to dodge. non-contrite. i disliked him even more than i already dislike him. >> yeah. >> he was not sorry. he was certainly not sorry to the people whose lives he
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ruined. >> no. >> we had to hear we didn't call them fat. >> really? >> thank you so much. you called them the other things and, you know the other thing i started to think about realizing he is not forthcoming, he's a drug dealer. he pushed through influence and sort of direct pushing his drugs on the other riders on the team and adds to the grossness of what he did. and there was so much dodging. blocking more shots than -- >> oh! >> the thing that was so fascinating about it, there's no attempt at fake contrition. in that way, it was so real because he was being exactly as cold and exactly the person, the psychopath that he is. >> why do that? >> i don't know. i mean, i guess he had to sit down and get it all out there but it was incredible to watch and the other thing that struck me that you sort of alluded to, s.e. is that, you know, the very
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characteristics that we revered, the perseverance, the sing single-minded determination, the focus, when he took that over the line, it's the same thing that made him a monster and i thought one of the more fascinating parts of the interview was he talked about his fight with cancer. and how in that fight and admittedly he had been doping even before that but in that fight he decided he would do anything to beat cancer and he took that same mentality after he did beat cancer to cycling and decided he would do anything, no matter the cost to win. and it was amazing. >> a lot of people have that mind-set. a lot of successful people have that mind-set, i'll do anything it takes to win or get ahead. >> doesn't matter who i hurt. >> that's the turning point. it doesn't matter who i hurt. because sort of putting -- making sacrifices, that's part of being successful. >> sure. >> being ambitious. you got to make compromises and prioritize but when you say i don't care who i hurt to do it
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and what you have seen with a lot of these guys. i can't help but think about some recent politicians who have i think encompassed this kind of sociopathic ego maniacal sense of purpose that clouds their judgment and thinking i can get away with this. i'm not sorry. only sorry i got caught. i think about folks like anthony weiner maybe or john edwards, tiger woods in recent memory. >> schwarzenegger. >> yeah. i'm wondering what you think. who has done the best job at pr? you know, tiger's press conference which was uncomfortable. lance's oprah interview. i mean, what -- you know, what's been a good model for manti te'o, see how i did that there, to follow? >> well, if you see now i'm a little uncomfortable lumping manti te'o with lance armstrong. i don't disagree with much of what anybody said about lance armstrong but maybe i'm a little
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gullible here but the more i'm reading about and trying to piece together this manti te'o situation, we have learned a few new things today. number one, his friend that set up this fake account supposedly and the fake girlfriend now called a church friend, a church friend talked to espn and said that he told her the church friend or him the church friend, i don't know if he's a he or she, he did this to multiple people. messed with them, had done it to manti te'o and manti te'o found out about it on december 6th. one of the theories that's been floating around is this started out as a hoax. te'o decided i'm going to ride this to get me the heisman trophy and consideration. >> right. >> if you accept the december 6th date, the balloting is done. >> he didn't lie after the girlfriend after that date. >> that's point two. accepting the timeline, it is coming in to focus and wasn't a
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heisman angle. is it possible and to me it is, very conceivable, especially in this day and age, manti te'o found a relationship, exclusively online relationship he believed to be a great girl and thought he was in love and never met're. >> never on the phone with her? >> finds out about that, he finds out about that on december 6th, when's going through this guy's mind? humiliation. how could i be so stupid? the whole world, the whole world believe that is there's a tragic story built up around this. he's 20 years old. >> okay. >> how does he resnakt. >> toure? assuming it turns out he's in on it all the time, what should the next move be, prwise -- >> assuming everything i said is invalid and not worth considering -- >> no, no. the pr spin won't matter because that will explain -- >> i think if that were the case
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and that simple of an answer, i got hoodwinked, never did anything wrong, then you could come out yesterday with the story blew up or today and just say, hey, i never -- >> or you might take a few days and make sure you pick the right person to interview you and -- >> you know -- >> talking about a 20-year-old guy here. i wouldn't expect him to come out. >> nefarious than that, what does he do? >> i think when you mentioned john edwards, when you mentioned tiger woods, lance armstrong, anthony weiner, there's a common mistake, bill clinton, there's a common mistake here that all of these people, all of these men have made. which is that they don't just come out and provide the information, cop to it. americans are so forgiving if they feel like you're genuinely sorry and not hedging, not -- >> taking so long to talk. >> we understand that people are flawed but you have to -- it has to feel genuine that you're
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sorry. >> bob barker? "the price is right" guy. bob barker was about to get hit with a suit. he came out, held the press conference and said, here's exactly what happened and he told -- in very grotesque detail, the story of his detail. >> bob barker? >> 1994. the great inoculation strategy. >> david petraeus, no drip, drip, drip after that. >> handled it well. >> that's true. okay. manti te'o, i hope you're listening. up next, an important conversation for anyone who's ever thought, why's not my doctor listening to me? a lot of people will be able to relate to this one. with the spark cash card from capital one, olaf gets great rewards for his small business! pizza! [ garth ] olaf's small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! helium delivery. put it on my spark card! [ pop! ] [ garth ] why settle for less?
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have you ever been to the doctor, waited patiently for your turn, told the doctor your troubles and then walked out
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totally unsatisfied thinking that doctor just did not listen to a word i said? if so, you're not alone. our next guest says doctors are moving away from thoughtful engagement with patients, reducing you from a person with a story to just a list of top symptoms and a problem in need of a recipe of generic treatment. according to her, driving the cost of health care in this country through the roof and worse it's leading to the wrong diagnoses. all that from a harvard trained doctor herself. joining us now is a clinical fellow at harvard medical school and the co-author of "when doctors don't listen, how to avoid unnecessary tests." doctor, thank you so much for joining us. it occurred me to in reading this about how we need to tell the doctors more about ourselves, the doctors needs to listen more to our stories, it occurred to me there's a movement sort of away from that in standardizing care and checklists for doctors to go
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through to make sure that no matter where you go in the country, you're getting a similar sort of care. does that run counter to what you're saying in this book? >> no, i think there are two different things we are talking about here. one is standardization for treatment and i think that's good. i mean, if you're a patient and under going surgery, you want to make sure that a sponge isn't left in your body. this kind of checklist i'm in favor of. what i'm talking about is standardization for diagnosis, not a good idea because you want your own diagnosis, not just a same pathway that every single patient follows. >> yeah, well, doctor, along those lines, i had an interesting experience this summer. i'm conditioned looking for doctors the look for somebody with lots of experience. just under the assumption they have seen everything and will have the best sense of what to do. i had a problem and i ended up seeing a doctor with problem 30 or 40 years of experience and got the impression this doctor had a quick checklist of three
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or four possible diagnoses and cut me off and didn't pay attention. didn't fix the problem at all. i ended going to a much younger doctor for a second opinion, somebody basically just out of medical school and doing residency and that doctor was very interested in spending time listening to me, asking me questions, following up, you know, making phone calls to follow up afterwards and the level of experience wasn't there but i felt a lot more comfortable and confident in that younger doctor. do you think that's a wise thing to look for as a patient, a younger doctor to listen snr. >> i'm not sure if it's about age as much as it's about trust. i mean, your experience really underscores the importance of having a good relationship with your doctor. right? finding someone who will spend that extra time to talk to you and not a lot of extra time but we know from studies that the average time to interruption when you begin talking to your doctor is something like eight second. i mean, that's incredible.
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right? eight seconds and all the time that you have to really tell your story. >> sounds like being on "the cycle." >> i see telling your story is number one tip. i'm grateful because my biggest fear going to my doctor is i'm going to leave something out and miss something so probably to a fault, unfortunately for my doctors, any time there's something wrong, i go in and download on anything that i think is relevant from a seven years ago surgery to the bruise the other day. i mean, is there such a thing as oversharing in terms of, you know, clouding the process and even right now more difficult for my doctor to figure out what's wrong with me? >> happening right now. >> you bring up an excellent point, actually, because i see the patients that think they're empowered patients, they bring in all the print-outs of webmd -- >> that's me. >> google the symptoms. i think that's good. good to be educated and know
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what's going on and you also do face the risk of having too much. this overload. >> right. >> and so that's why it's important to practice your pitch. just like if you were -- if you have ten seconds to talk to your senator, or your boss, i mean, you would want to make sure that you really practice that pitch and so that's why it's so important to write down the key aspects of your story. >> wow. >> and rehearse it in advance. >> lots of pressure here. >> my cysister, is an er doctor and told me that history taking is an art form and done in a proper way. so how can doctors get better at it? i mean, we have the patient who is come in with the webmd stuff, we have patient who is want to talk to you for an hour. a lot of doctors are egotistical as my sister's were. is it on the doctor to get better at the art form or is it on patients to really learn how to tell their story? >> ideally, the doctor should get better. we all want better doctors and i
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think that as an educator myself, i want to make sure that the new breed of medical students as you said, that the new breed is better in terms of paying attention to the story but there's something that the patient can do to help the doctor help you and that's what i emphasize and doctors don't listen, the medical system needs to improve and reform is happening and doctors take charge themselves, but in the meantime, there's something very tangible that patients do to get better care. >> thank you so much. >> thank you for having me. coming up, before afghanistan and iraq, it was a war that defined a generation. but one that we're still learning about today 40 years later. journlist and historian nick ters on the real american war in vietnam.
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next week mark it is 40th
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anniversary of the end of the vietnam war, a conflict that continues to haunt the american psyche. with the appointments of vietnam vets that became senators, kerry and hagel, to top foreign policy posts, we can be sure that vietnam will continue to lurk in the foreign policy apparatus. you'd think we couldn't learn more of what happened in vietnam given the books and movies telling the tales but you would be wrong. one day, one graduate student researching post traumatic stress disorder searched through secret pentagon archives and interviewing vets and reading journals to uncover the story of american atrocities in vietnam. in a war where we killed more than 2 million civilians. the result is a book called "kill anything that moves" where he says the stunning scale of civilian suffering far beyond the result of bad apples but the
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policy. serious accusations of nick turs joining us now. i want to warn the viewers some of the images in this segment might be disturbing. but nick, the most important question, what is the value to america in unearthing this now and talking to americans about the things, the atrocities that happened in vietnam at american hands? >> well, thanks for having me on. i think it's incumbent on americans to know exactly what war is about, especially because we're involved in serial wars at the moment. afghanistan, iraq, the covert campaigns in pakistan and yemen and generally we don't see civilian suffering on the front pages of the newspaper and doesn't lead the nightly news so it's important for americans to moe what their wars mean to people overseas. >> yeah. nick, i mean, we are rightly aware of -- you know, we have the vietnam memorial in
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washington. you have those 59,000 names there. incredibly emotional and moving experience and if you have family members or those your family knew just to walk by and see that's a moving experience. i do wonder sometimes if in this country we don't think enough about the other side of conflicts like this. you are talking about the atrocities in vietnam. you can also talk about the -- think of gulf war in 1991. very few american casualties and lots of iraqi casualties in 1991. think about the sanctions in the 1990s. hundreds of thousands of deaths that can be linked to that, think of afghanistan and the drones. do you think we really are sensitive enough to just sort of the implications of the kinds of deaths that just, you know, follow from the foreign policy that we have followed for decades, really? >> i just don't think it's on the radars of most americans. when i started studying this topic, i began with those secret pentagon files and i went to
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vietnam for the first time and i was trying to search for witnesses and survivors of the cases that i'd found in the archives and the pentagon's archives and i went to talk to the vietnamese about one specific event, one atrocity. a great spasm of violence and what the vietnamese tell me about is what it's like for ten years under bombs and shells and helicopter gunships and negotiated the lives around the war. about how ever day there was a calculus that went on trying to figure out how to stay alive, when to stay inside the bomb shelter, when to get out of it and forage for food and when to farm and this is what i learned, that something that i learned from the vietnamese i couldn't learn from the records no matter how graphic and detailed they were. >> nick, this might be a little tan genital but i wanted to ask
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your opinion of modern war reporting is. it feels like great writers like sebastian junger and feels like a dearth of good war reporting. we mostly get these glossy bios on generals or the story of a small operation. what are your thoughts? >> well, you know, these days it's very hard, you know, one of the lesson that is the military took away from vietnam wasn't, you know, how to really fight a war more effectively but how to more effectively manage the narrative. they saw that they believe that the press had damaged their war effort and they wanted to make sure that didn't happen again so they've relied on embedding and makes it very tough to get the kind of coverage i think we need. >> yeah. good point. >> well, nick, you mentioned that the atrocities that were happening in vietnam, it wasn't the result of sort of individual soldiers. it came from top down policy. have we learned from that?
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have we changed those policies? what's our administration need to take from your book and do you think having chuck hagel and john kerry, two vietnam vets about to take the helm of, you know, the state department and the defense department, will that help bring some of these lessons to bear? >> well, kerry and hagel saw the war firsthand in the delta, one of the areas where it was packed with civilians and where there were tremendous number of civilian casualties so i think that they did see some of the worst of the war. i would hope that having seen that up close and personal they'd be more reticent of taking this country to war. i think we have to hope for the best, that they can take that out of vietnam experience. i don't think that the carnage in today's wars is comparable to vietnam when it comes to civilians but we do know that civilians are still dying on a regular basis and still
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suffering a great deal and i'm afraid that, you know, if history is any guide we may not know the full story of that suffering for decades. >> all right. nick turse, thank you very much. >> thank you. up next, the cyclist's favorite inaugural moments and never guess who picked one from the 1800s. it's not who you think. i'm heading to washington this weekend. krystal is, too. and i can't wait! what are you doing? nothing. are you stealing our daughter's school supplies and taking them to work? no, i was just looking for my stapler and my... this thing. i save money by using fedex ground and buy my own supplies. that's a great idea. i'm going to go... we got clients in today. [ male announcer ] save on ground shipping at fedex office.
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president obama takes the oath of office publicly on monday and as a history dork i would like to ask my fellow cyclists about their favorite inaugural moments and now running this through the back spin i think is the word i was looking for there. i gave it a little bit of thought. i was tempted to go with lincoln's second inaugural. >> awesome. >> 1865. >> i remember that. it was a good one. >> as i said, the video footage is a little grainy. the audio wasn't there. i was thinking of something else. there's a moment i think is kind of worth sharing because it's rare to encapsulate the failure of a presidency in to one day, the inaugural day. inauguration day. i would say that would be jimmy carter. whatever you think of jimmy carter's politics, the ideology, it wasn't a very successful presidency. and the roots of it sort of evident on the day of the inauguration for two reasons.
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first, his staff kind of bungled the, you know, showing proper deference to the speaker of the house, tip o'neill, for instance. crucially important guy for getting the carter program through congress. he was miffed because he wasn't treated well with tickets to inaugural festivities and balls and that sort of thing. the leadership of the democratic party in congress, carter won the nomination in an end and around them understanding the new primary rules before they did. he didn't show proper deference -- >> starting off on a bad foot. >> right. second part is, we remember -- this is a good thing. i like how he did this. he got out of the car in the inaugural parade and walked and walked to the crowd and other presidents have done it since then. >> first time. >> first then. it was a nice gesture. but what it showed was this was what carter believed the workable model of a presidency would be. you could tick off the tip o'neills, tick off the powerful congressional leaders, be man of the people and go over the head
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of the speaker of the house if you had the people and tried that over and over again and didn't work and that's really -- from the -- that's really the whole ted kennedy challenge in 1980, kennedy versus carter, if it's not for the hostage crisis, kennedy would have beaten him and crushed him. carter never had his party with him. >> i wonder if that model works better now, having the people behind you model just with increased engagement over social media. just asking myself that question. >> think of the cooperative relationship obama and nancy pelosi had and how crucial to getting all that stuff through the first two years. >> still need that apparatus. >> unnecessary -- >> i won't call it a favorite inaugural moment. i'm going to call it a cautionary tale. the longest address ever was william harris harrison's inaugural address in 1841. it was nearly two hours. think about that. two hours.
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that you're standing out there in the cold. watching this old time fighter just sort of ramble on and on and on. cautionary tale is he didn't wear a coat and he got a cold and literally -- 30 days later, died of pneumonia. keep it brief, fellows. keep it brief. >> wait. hasn't that whole cold -- actually being in the cold leading to illness thing been debunked? >> not in process of this. >> sorry. >> not for this segment. >> cold water on your -- >> just wondering. >> in the 1840s they thought that not wearing a coat got you a cold. >> all right. >> but i'll still make sure that my daughter wears a coat. >> that's the story. >> speaking of children, obama's inauguration meant so much i had one child then. and to be able to really look at him, you could be president one day was so extraordinary. such an extraordinary moment for america. sort of closing this loop between slavery and then obama
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becoming president and, you know, you just felt sort of like america had taken a step forward, had changed. it was more than just a normal here's the new president. it was just this extraordinary thing that i will sort of never forget that feeling of sort of feeling welcomed as a full american for the first time. and a lot of other people said they felt that same way, finally, like, fully at home in america for once. that day. and i mean, the election night was one thing but to have it really happen and to see these two walking down the street, you know, as carter did, just like, wow, this is really happening. like wow. >> yeah. i still don't think we know exactly what impact, how impactful for your kids, for my daughter, they could have -- be 16 years old and only presidents known an african-american man and a white woman, hill hi. >> wow. okay. >> we have said that several times. >> i have mentioned that before.
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you know, i was actually in the country of jordan during the inauguration and watched the inaugural speech on al jazeera and for election day and it was incredible to watch the election from the outside in and people in jordan, their minds were blown. even though they were watching the polls, watching what was happening, they said to us the day before, no way. he can't win. americans are too racist. no way. and the next day they were totally stunned that we had actually elected an african-american president. >> and it changed the way that people in other countries looked at us. >> yeah. and for my pick of my favorite moment another sort of iconic ground-breaking, young, transformational leader and an iconic moment. >> my fellow americans, ask not what your country can do for you. ask what you can do for your
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country. >> it still is really stirring to watch, and actually i re-read his speech and the president's speech last time around and i was struck by some of the parallels there. at that time they were facing the crisis of communism and the threat of nuclear war and so it was this very galvanizing moment. for the president we were in the midst of this economic calamity. a lot of the rhetoric was sort of similar. >> i just got to share though because it occurred to me that the pneumonia william henry harrison thing -- >> yes. >> you were there. >> father of george allen the politician, legendary football coach, washington redskins, came out of retirement in 1990 at 72 years old to coach the long beach state football program. he promised a winning season. he said i'm going to give them a winning season. last game of the year, they're 5-5, they pull it out, they go 6-5. the team is so excited, cold day. they give him a gatorade bath, 30 days later george allen, sr.
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died, pneumonia. the william henry harrison of college foontball. >> it can happen. >> on an up note. >> and to kick off the inaugu inauguration excitement, the white house released a new portrait of president obama. it was snapped on december 6th. looks a little different from the one four years ago. a little more gray there. beverly cotton had another observation, quote, this is what winning looks like. like us on facebook and let us know what you think. if you're in washington for the events, make sure to upload your pictures to our page. still ahead, toure's imaginary girlfriend is revealed. i'm sure toure's wife is going to love what's coming up next on "the cycle." jishths new prilosec otc wildberry is the same frequent heartburn treatment as prilosec otc. now with a fancy coating
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. the most beautiful girl i have ever met. not because of her physical beauty but the beauty of her character and who she is. she was just that person that i turned to and even though she was fighting leukemia and, you know, fighting various things, she always found time to serve someone else. >> the manatti te'o story is baffling and magna tetizing.
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at its core it's an infinitely confusing story. i, too, have an imaginary girlfriend. >> no, no, no, i love my husband. you've got me all wrong. >> well, why did he say a woman who doesn't exist was the most beautiful girl he'd ever met? why did his dad say they spent time in hawaii and why is brent musburger still drooling over her? we can laugh about all this because no one died. well, no one except for his girlfriend, but, america, we've been bamboozled and hoodwinked. last night i watched a lot of youtubes of te'o talking about this fictional person and i seriously think he's a pathological liar. i don't say this lightly. i have known two pathological liers in my life and watching him speak about this ghosty girlfriend reminded me of the frightening cold way those liars i have known could look new the
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eyes and tell you a detailed falsehood they completely believed. the motivation for these people seem complex but it's often ultimately just a strategy to get attention. te'o's lives surely captured attention and made him a figure of sympathy and awe as he played big despite a heavy heart and thus became a man the nation had to respect. the sad thing is i wasn't too surprised to learn te'o's heart-warming story is hogwash. it's been over 40 years since paul simon wrote "where have you gone joe dimaggio," but that line rings truer now than ever. we're in a world where it seems impossible to trust anyone. think of barry bonds, tiger woods, michael vick, lance armstrong who was disappointingly cold and uncontrite last night and i think made it all worse for himself. even saintly timmy tebow turned out to be a lame pulling himself out of the game plan when he didn't get the playing time he thought he deserved. we can't let ourselves love